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July 17th, 2008 @7:54 am  

Wateen is just another rip-off company.. Established in a rip-off country!

I am not surprised by the level of quality they are providing considering they are in Pakistan after-all!

I’d best say to move away from this Company there is a better solution arriving very soon which is LDN (LinkDotNet). they are launching there new WiMAX services very soon.

I will also switch from Wateen to LDN as soon as its available near my local area!
LDN is better in every way! They have a very friendly customer service, They provide the service they offer Unlike wateen who i think don’t even know what they’re doing! and last but not least i am pretty confident that LDN will provide a much cheaper solution then Wateen.

Wateen is only making the Future Green only for themselves and their investors!
Wateen can proudly be called Yateem! i say lets make it offical :)

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July 18th, 2008 @4:46 pm  

Very nice post. You know that you can also use Wateen for Sip calling See the details here http://blog.fahdi.net/2008/07/07/how-to-use-wateen-with-xlite/

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Arshad Said,
July 18th, 2008 @6:38 pm  

I’ve been getting 5 signals on my CPEi600 device but the thing is i don’t actually think it makes much of a differnce.

Specially the internet speed.

I speed is the same for me if its full signals or half signals!

The only thing i think it affects is that it will send data in and out of the CPEi600 device much faster…

Damn it, i just had 5 whole signals on my CPE device seconds and now when i turned out and l0oked it had only 3 signal bars!.

btw, its an Indoor CPE unit and i didn’t even put it near any window or something I have it close to my Computer.

You’re absolutely right about one thing mate - Wateen doesn’t know one bit what they’re doing.

Thanks for Reading!
Arshi

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July 18th, 2008 @8:10 pm  

Hmmm I think Mobilink Wimax is pretty good. Many people advice me to use Mobilink Wimax except Wateen. Now I’m thinking to test it.

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July 18th, 2008 @9:01 pm  

Yes same here, i’ve been getting 5 signals sometime here too. But the internet service remains same. Thanks for pointing that out Arshad.

Mobilink will surely be much better then Wateen i’m pretty sure! I’ve been browsing to find more about Wateen’s Services i came across some posting that were saying that Mobilink paid Wateen about $10 million USD to slow down the operation :o

That is surely is weird and odd to hear but it is just a rumor upto now!

I also saw in a news paper site that Mobilink is having trouble with their new WiMAX product in karachi… so thats why i was thinking it could be true because if Mobilink is having trouble establishing their WiMAX service in pakistan then, they might have paid that amount to the CEO of Wateen - I just hope thats not the case though!

Other then that my Wateen service has been running smooth sometime and then all of the sudden went down to 5-7 KBps :s and sometimes the service completely goes down no pages / websites are browse-able. I even tried restarting the CPEi600 Router device but it doesn’t help much. So i am pretty confident that the problem is on Wateen’s Side. Yet i still haven’t tried contacting Wateen’s Customer Service because i know how stupid they are.

Last time i called them - A lady picked up the phone they gave me stupid answers like “Click on the 2 computer icons on the bottom right of your screen Then click on the Support Tab and Then click on the Repair button. Does it work now?”

Man that really pissed me! I told them i already tried that.. They were telling other things to do which i already did such as Clean my cache - Restart The Computer - Etc, etc… So at the end of the day i just had to slam the phone and disconnect the call.

Wateen’s Customer Support Representives are like they don’t even know What they’re talking about and starts making things up that are unbelievable.

Wateen needs to get their act straight or else once Mobilinks WiMAX is up and running. Wateen will surely disappear from the market quickly!

By the way Fahad, are you using Mobilink WiMAX are they already out for public?

Whose Internet Services are you currently using?

Thanks!

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July 19th, 2008 @3:46 pm  

Yup I’m Using Mobilink WImax and it’s out publicaly. And I’m happy with this.

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July 19th, 2008 @11:50 pm  

WoW, awesome!

I really wish i had Mobilink WiMAX :(

Hey fahad i got a deal for you :d Lets switch services :) Yateem is also good :D heheh…

I’ll have to be be visiting Mobilinks Office tommorow to see if they could provide coverage in my area. :)

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no imageTulip (Who am I?) Said,
August 1st, 2008 @9:55 pm  

salam folks…!
got the link to this blog while googling….
well … using wateen.. no speed issue.. ’tis fantastic… the downloading limit is not enough for a person who’s an IT freak,… so i had to grab ma hand back when clicking on ‘download this software/video’ blah blah… Thats 10gb for 512.. but i think thats more than enough for a normal user…

in the last…
NO COMMENTS for their billing issue….

peace!~
-Nashrah

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August 1st, 2008 @10:22 pm  

WS

Great to see some people are really happy with Wateen :)

Which city are you in Nashrah?

ATM, wateen is really getting worse on my side..
I have been noticing the CPE device searching and searching too often for some few days..

Not sure why, it got alittle better today and their internet speed went down wildly..

I haven’t had any sort of billing issue thats for sure :)

I agree 10 GB cap is not good. i wish they could raise it to UNLIMITED :D

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no imageSara (Who am I?) Said,
August 3rd, 2008 @3:16 pm  

Unlimited downloads for “What”?

Hello Folks, It is nice to see so many people discussing commendable issues here. Got this link at google blogs. So, i thought I should also plunge into the discussion.
Emmm…Well, in my case, Wateen’s services are pretty good, (make it pleasant). I’m getting a good 120 Kbp without any issues. Though, the speed slows down from 120, depending on the signals strength but I’m talking about an average.

About the unlimited downloads, I don’t know what you guys want to download! 10 Gb is a hell of a limit! Is it not? Use internet for the sake of benefiting yourself. Movies and Softwares are available in CD/DVD, if that is what makes you crazy. (I don’t know what to do with Pakis’ Complaining Habits .Ugh!!)

I appreciate the current technological developments being made in Pakistan. The service is not only fresh in Pakistan but also in the entire world. Even in Australia, they are having problem with wimax services. Such basic problems always occur but what is admirable, is the establishment of a brand new technology in our country. At least, it gives us connectivity where other wired services cannot. Moreover, it has raised our name in global market.
By the way, I’m living in DHA phase 5 Khi.. I don’t hear anyone blaming Wateen for anything. Its good here. Lol. I think I’m lucky :)

Sara

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August 3rd, 2008 @10:10 pm  

@Sara:
Thanks for putting your feedback, i agree with you on everything except that even though CD/DVD’s are able to be bought from a retail cd shop..

Its really not possible to get everything you want from there.. i’m not saying that wateen should offer unlimited downloads and put theirselves in a burden.

10 GB is nothing - specially not for me. even if i dont download loads of junk and all it still dies on me.

I usually watch youtube videos and surf and by doing that i managed to use over 6 GB of my bandwidth :s in about a week :s

as i am a developer i also tend to upload files and applications alot for testing and development purposes - but thats alone not the reason.

Wateen should atleast offer a unlimited package even if it cost alittle extra $$$.

One of my friends who was also using Wateen managed to use up all his bandwidth (10 GB + 20 GB = 30 GB) in 2 days!!

He was using Wateen’s PostPaid plans, and boy his bill surely weren’t too graceful :) he showed and i freaked out… after contacting wateen’s CSR he found out that he used over 20 GB extra bandwidth.. The weird part was that he was never informed that his bandwidth is finished.

Good for you sara, i’m glad that you’re not having any sort of trouble with wateen and hope that it stays like that. :)

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no imageabbas (Who am I?) Said,
August 3rd, 2008 @11:32 pm  

i am using wateen prepaid package 768kbps 4GB.i get 3 signals at my location in sukkur.i am pretty happy with wateen, getting downloads at 90-100 KBPS. there are problems associated with the firmware of CPE.if you are experiencing problems, just contact the company about updating the firmware.sometimes the CPEs they are giving do not have latest firmware version installed.

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no imageShazia Mehmood (Who am I?) Said,
August 3rd, 2008 @11:40 pm  

I am seriously shocked to hear your experience with wateen, although i dont use wateen’s services i am just shocked to see such a big and reputible company to act like this.

I can thank god that i’m not using these balony services otherwise i might end up like you. I was found this blog while searching for wateen related issues and problems to decide if i should switch with them or not; i’m using PTCL Broadband right now, its not bad but i feel like i need something more then this. Wateen was my first thought now i think i’ll have to consider finding a better one… Maybe Mobilink? :) I haven’t heard much complains about it so far.

Regarding Bandwidth-
I dont believe there are moments when you need much more bandwidth then offer specially compared to a 10 GB Bandwidth CAP, i have in more then one occasions required higher bandwidth from my Internet Service Provider - Streaming music, videos are getting pretty common in pakistan and has already throughout the world but since these stuff tend to use more bandwidth then it would normally it requires users to have higher connectivty speed and also higher bandwidth.

Internet Service Provider should have more concerns for their consumers regarding their usage and not just stick them with a alloted bandwidth that is much more scary then having a low internet speed!

I heard worldcall are reducing their tariff plans (making it more cheaper) i’m also considering to go for that, if thats the last available option i have!.

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no imageM.Arshad (Who am I?) Said,
August 3rd, 2008 @11:43 pm  

i’m also live in dha, near saudi embassy but wateen is not good for me!
how much signal do you get?

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no imageSara (Who am I?) Said,
August 7th, 2008 @1:57 pm  

Firmware of CPE needs your attention

Zubair, you look crazy lol. 6 GB on youtube!!! Man. Now I knew why Pakistan ain’t progressing economically. How can it when its generation is whirling around youtube 24/7 : p
And I get four to five signals (may be because of the pleasant view from my balcony loll) but it works fine. I agree with Abbas, the firmware of CPE really needs your attention.. Call Wateen or go to their office. Secondly, you guys are not only internet geeks around. Business companies and five star hotels are using these services, establishing wifi hotspots for the businessmen. I haven’t heard anyone complaining about the Wateen’s services. Have you? Of course not, because they know how to use these services and most of us do not. Instead of looking for Wateen’s comments on google, try searching WIMAX, its uses and How To etc.

Shazia? Your post made me smile (lol). Well, the choice is yours. Depends on the kind of services you require and the place where you live. People here are expressing their experiences and views. We haven’t been hired to convince you saying DO THIS, IGNORE THAT and BLA BLA BLA ?

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August 7th, 2008 @11:39 pm  

@Shazia:
Thanks for your feedback :) but i would really recommend using something better then Wateen, one of my friends got a new mobilink connection to his house, he invited me over to have a look. i was quite amazed by looking at the differences not just in terms of speed but quality as well. I can assure you will be much better off with a broadband cable connection.

@Sara: i’m not sure why you think i’m crazy :( but none-the-less i dont spend countless hours wasting my time on youtube, high bandwidth was consumed because i was watching high quality videos unlike normal / low quality videso, theres a option on youtube to set that.

anyways, i have confirmed 2 twice my firmware is already upto date and stable. i’m getting 4-5 signals.

but i’m actually quite surprised that you haven’t heard any complaints of wateen yet? i surely have!

Wateen’s Customer Help Service is a joke, they have no clue what so ever about what they are suppose to do. it’ll just be better if you contact PTA instead of wateen directly IMO.

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no imageAmeen (Who am I?) Said,
August 7th, 2008 @11:52 pm  

Its not just about their stupid firmware!

Firmwares are mostly updated automatically so theres. Wateen is just not taking there customers seriously. I was using Wateen up until last week when i decided to throw away the trash out of my house.

Wateen stamped me with a bill of RS.64,000!! and i barely used it. The telephony connection that came with it was never used from my side not even once and still i got charged RS.3325 for it!!! its completely a GOLMAAL! product.

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no imageAnoushey (Who am I?) Said,
August 8th, 2008 @12:47 pm  

Positive Blogging! Share Your Opinions, Don’t Pull Your Roots

I have witnessed several bloggers putting down the wimax culture in Pakistan, whether its being provided by Wateen or Mobilink, they all hate it and are constantly campaigning to abolish latest marketing, business and innovative trends from Pakistan.

Well, I know wimax is a very expensive service and not everyone is able to afford it, but it is an innovative application, people. It needs to flourish cause it holds numerous advantages for us.
I’m currently looking for some technical problems that anyone of you has faced while using wimax services. I’m currently using Wateen’s broadband and telephony and I do not have any issues with the availability or any other thing. I strongly agree with the awful service experience in the past but I seem to have a lot better service after upgrading my CPE firmware. Why? Because I researched and solved this issue.

I have been browsing internet and collecting information about wimax culture, its future and troubleshooting its complicated problems. Believe me, the results are astonishing as well as shocking. Even in developed countries like UK, US and Australia, wimax is suffering from a hard time, regarding its service problems. They are certainly better than us in technology and many other things, except a few morals, but they too are having problems in establishing this service.

If you browse through their blogs, you will always find a technical problem faced, the reasons, troubleshooting tips, their own opinions and several worthy things, which are helpful for a service provider. Why don’t you guys go for some positive criticism, your opinions and suggestion? If Wimax culture is really having problems in Pakistan, we should play our cards right. It might help ISPs to locate the problems and ensure provision in specific localities, where there really are problems and people who do not understand terms such as Firmware, upgradation and even the ISPs. What do you say guys?
Lets start a discussion, which details the advantages that we can have using wimax, (except the simple home internet). Detailing all the positive aspects and its problems, we can get a very prominent benefit of online media. We can certainly succeed in spreading the proper information that needs to be known. We are the consumers and we know better how these services can bring ease in our lives. So, What do you say?

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no imageSara (Who am I?) Said,
August 9th, 2008 @1:26 pm  

Lets sort it out!

@ Ameen,
Really? :0
Its not possible!! I am shocked to hear that. Why would such a big company charge you 3325 Rupees for nothing? In my case, it was firmware of CPE. I got it solved by upgrading its version. But I don’t know what is wrong at your side. Have you contacted any technical person to analyze why its not working there? Sorry if i’m offending anyone but the bill thing is just a crap! Looks like anti-marketing campaign to me. Why on earth would anyone pay a bill that he is not supposed to pay!!!
Hold on here… It not old PTCL system guys! The bill comes with a list and you can claim that whether you have made calls, used the internet or you haven’t done anything at all.
Its not Pakistani police come on! Go to their office and talk to senior management if you have any issues. This generation is still acting like a babe in arms, I didn’t know it.
Secondly, what do you think is the real cause of a bad service (if you really are experiencing it)
@ Anoushay
I agree with you Anoshay. There must be a reason eh? Lets point it out and come to a point where, at least, it is unveiled that THIS or THAT is the reason, which creates problems. We can sort it out together.
Wimax is not the same in every city of Pakistan, different locations come with different problems and they cannot be sorted out until we know them.

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no imageAmeen (Who am I?) Said,
August 11th, 2008 @11:47 am  

THANK YOU

thanks Admin for your email i went to PTA website and contacted them after 1 day Wateen Manager contacted and ask what issues i have

they sent 2 people at my home one was sales manager i think and they said there billing system has problems and thats why its showing incorrect price there he said i have to Rupees 200 only. he said my internet usage did go upto Rs 64,000 :s i explained and told him that i dont use internet that much and i been out of city for over 2-3 weeks with no using internet from my PC

he said i dont understand how is possible he said some one else was using my post paid account i said to him i gave no one my pass or id to login i did not even tell anyone i was using wateen internet

he said ok sir and called to some one after 10 minutes of talking he said you dont have to pay this bill and instead just pay us Rs 8,500 :s which i did

but darn it, i didn’t use anything :@ they are still ripping of

i also told them to switch my account from post-paid to pre-paid account, i think it is safer to use prepaid since it wont use more then available balance

thanks for all the help admin and everyone
jeeye pakistani :D

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no imageAnoushey (Who am I?) Said,
August 12th, 2008 @9:48 am  

Guys, I had posted a story and requested everyone to give a feedback about Wateen and Mobilink’s wimax and it has been hell TWO days but I haven’t seen any response so far.
What I think now? Everyone was literally crying for the bad taste of services that was being provided by Wateen, but now, when they have been asked to get their feedback in a polite manner to sort things out, I see no response at all!

I knew there is something fishy going on here and there, everywhere. But now I can clearly see that these bloggers would have been working on anti-progress campaign against the country. Man, why the hell do we always have to act according to our old definition of Pakistanism as well as anti-patriotism?

Just barking out loud about everything is easy, cutting others’ business is easy as well, but I’m requesting all those freaks to share the technical reasons or their self-made technical reasoning to put it over here. So, all of you who have/had problems with either Mobilink or Wateen’s wimanx services, please let it unveil. At least we all have the rights to know the possibilities of bogus bills, (reaching hundred thousands), those dum rolls who can pay 90,000 or more (becuz I’ve read the same post on several blogs, but with different names), when they haven’t even used that bandwidth. In addition, all those people who lose their signals but do not know why they lost them, and what actually does it take to resolve it. Well, lets get things rolling, have your say.

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August 12th, 2008 @11:31 am  

Hello,

Wateen is providing high quality services and support.

As a part of our continued support and appreciation and also to celebrate the upcoming independence day Wateen is running a promo from which all the new subscribers can benifet.

Wateen is excluding the Subscriptions Charges (PKR 2,500) and also excluding the Installation Charges (PKR 1,000) for all the new subscribers that decide to join the already growing community of Wateen. (Save PKR 3,500!)

**Please note this offer is valid upto 14th August.

Contact# : +92-322-231-1135
Ebrahim M. Dawood
Corporate Sales Executive

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no imageSaad (Who am I?) Said,
August 13th, 2008 @12:16 pm  

@ Anoushey

I don’t think any kind of “anti-progress campaign” is going on here though your pro-wateen ideas raise my eye brows a bit.

As for the quality of service I’d agree with most of the people as I am myself a victim of poor connectivity and poor after-sales service. My 512kbps/4MB conncetion is slower than dial-up. The reason is that my location is over 2.2km away fromnearest tower when its supposed to be within a radius of 1km. How can they sell like that? If I call at their helpline, no one answers for like 25 minutes. Good enough that you researched and solved your problem, but don’t you think that an expensive WiMAX service shoudl be a cure-all in itself. If I am supposed to find solutions for connectivity prblems myslef why should I even switch to “latest” technology?

I work in a communication sector and I know how services are delivered if you intend to deliver them in a professional way. Wateen’s only focus is more and more sales. Perhaps you didn’t know but right now what sells a product best in developed markets is teh after-sales service.

Its been 18 days since I got my connection and I’ve had to visit teh franchsie 5 times (since you cant connect to their helpline). They haven’t even acivated my phone line after repeated complaints,and they’re charging me for that. The guy visited the premesis but nothing.

As far as teh rpactices in the country go here’s a reality check: Pakistan has now formed Consumer Protection Courts (after 60 years of independence) and they haven’t done anything to create awareness. The directions fromHigh Court are to solve cases within one week, but they hang on for months without results. While in West, the consumer is powerful to such an extent that companies make conscious efforts to provide best services. In case there’s a lapse, they pay heavy amounts for out-of-court settlements. In Pakistan, they know most of teh people are illiterate and don’t know about their rights. I’ve seen people in mobile companies’ franchises begging CSRs to solve their problems - the problems casued by the operator themselves.

Technology is very god and it must be welcomed but only after we deserve it. Right now I don’t think we do!

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no imageM.Arshad (Who am I?) Said,
August 13th, 2008 @12:42 pm  

WOW! - WTF :o

4MB !!!!! :o does wateen even provide 4MB? :o
i thought they were limited to 1 or maybe 2 MB?

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no imageAnoushey (Who am I?) Said,
August 16th, 2008 @9:38 am  

@ Saad

4 MB? Guy, what are you really talking about? And why in the world would you apply for a Wimax connection when you already knew that you place is pretty far away from the tower, which certainly doesn’t make it look pretty anymore. So, why would you go for wimax on risks? I’m sure there would be several other services serving you with extra care and concerns. Aren’t they? Well, that is the question. There are other services in majority of our areas but we choose innovation, because it is the human nature. We like changes; we like moving on and so are we.
I know there have been several problems with wateen’s services and that is what I am really talking about. Anti-progress Campaign does not mean being hired by the competitors, Mr. Sophisticated. It is our unconcerned behavior and an ideology that really sucks. Can’t we just dig about the heads and toes of anything that we hear of?

I appreciate your concerns and the dignity that you showed while sharing your experience. That is exactly what I have been looking for. If that, what you told me, is true, it’s really sick! I don’t know why haven’t you taken any steps for this problem. The buzzing phone is a minor problems, may be manufactures fault. We are talking about broadband and wimax coverage. I’ll appreciate more people responding to this query. Please keep slamming your heads against your keyboards until something worthy comes out. When it does, put it down over here. We gotta do some serious action against the things that have been more than enough but we gotta know if there really are things or its just our bad habit of filling empty spaces according to our own logics? That, is what we look for.

Oh, you are talking about courts, judiciary, law and Rights? Hello? Mr. Sleepy, wake up
now. Dream is over, welcome to Pakistan.

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no imageSara (Who am I?) Said,
August 18th, 2008 @2:46 pm  

Wateen and IBM – Why shake hands?

Folks, does anyone know about the latest offers being provided by Wateen? I heard they signed an agreement with IBM and being provided with some more integrity. Well, I don’t know much about it but just read about it on a blog. But I can’t get it. Can anyone help me out? Why Wateen is shaking hands with IBM and what are going to be the advantages?

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no imageM.Arshad (Who am I?) Said,
August 19th, 2008 @5:21 am  

I also stumbled upon such a page that was talking about Wateen joining up with IBM.

Heres some line from it:
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Wateen recently signed a million dollar plus deal with IBM to implement Tivoli Netcool across its enterprise. Netcool is a suite of products accquired by IBM (and subequently placed in the Tivoli bucket) that helps track and monitor large networks for errors and downtime. So chances are that next time your local wimax router goes down, it got reported to a support engineer’s cellphone through Netcool.
———–
I’m not sure if it’ll help much. but wateen certainly needs something like this because their staffs are already very lazy.

The only possible way i think it could us would be if they really use it correctly, as said above - if any downtimes or errors occurs for us it will be instantly reported to the technical engineers and may solve our issues sooner.

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no imageSara (Who am I?) Said,
August 20th, 2008 @10:33 am  

Hmmm. Thanks for the help. I’m a little bad with the search thingy. Well, it says ‘More than billions’, and if it really says more than billions, there must be a use of it. In my opinion, as i have already read many complaints against wateen, it will definitely help. Because there are people who have technical problems and etc. Some of them do not know how to solve, and some problems cannot be solved.
IBM is a big name, this collaboration will work. Don’t you think?

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